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Advice how to become a good artist

Journal Entry: Wed Jul 9, 2008, 1:52 PM
  • Listening to: George Gershwin
  • Reading: Discworld - Night Watch
  • Watching: Inland Empire


Tibet by jonnymorris

--Update--

(sorry for mistakes, i wrote this on a mac... :D ... with headache)

No.... I don't explain here how you can get more experience in drawing skills or getting an own style. I talk how you become a good artist in your mind. That means, when is an artist a great artist outside of the paper. Charakter- and thoughtwise. What you become at the end is your way.

And this is my opinion. You must not agree and I hope you do not.


1. Try to get a sense for quality and asthetics first. Get a work ethic/discipline.

2. Fame or popularity creates no good artist and is no indicator for good art.
Ignore the internet or ass kissers.

3. Arrogance is no tool to make your art better.

4. Intolerance against other mediums makes you stiff and hollow. Love all sorts of art and try to find the quality and the garbage in them.

5. Don't copy a famous style to get the fame for yourself. Copy a style just to leanr for further development. Getting attention with this work is rubbish.

6. Don't try to develop your actor skills...try to develop your art.
The work is the star...not the artist.

7. Accept that art blocks are a part of your development. Art blocks show that you ARE in the art progress.

8. Never stick with one style. Be always in development. The way is the goal.

9. Social contact is more important than a drawing.

10. Don't follow trends. Create trends.

11. Stay to yourself/style and don't try to fit into the homestyle of a company.
Try to be flexible and understand everything. Learn photgraphy and you will learn technics to improve your drawing skills.

12. Stay away from computers in your learn progress or as much as possible. Try to focus on traditional stuff. Many will disagree, but a computer is lifeless and you will not learn that art is dirty and funny when you do it by yourself, you will only learn how to avoid mistakes with 'alt+z' and you close your 'mind'.

13. What inspires you should always be around you.  

14. Stress and fear are not necassary when you draw. You will not lose anything when you make a mistake...just a piece of paper...but you get experience.

15. Try to top yourself as much as possible.

16. Be your own biggest critic.

17. Stay away from friends opinions. They will never really say the truth, because they don't wanna hurt you or have no knowledge in the work you do.
Find a professional and talk with him.

18. Nobody will help you getting better in your skills. You must work on yourself alone.

19. Don't see in one drawing your 'goal of the week'...see in 100 pieces your goal.

20. Time is NOT your enemy in private work.

21. Ignore money. Money makes your art not good.

22. Schmorgurken taste delicious.

23. Envy is a good tool to force yourself to get better. (not the bad version of envy...)

24. A famous artist still makes mistakes or produces shit. Tell him what you think. He is still a human and must shit in a toilet like you.

25. Anime is not a good starter style. You learn a communistic art style. You learn something nearly everyone can reproduce too. No individuality or less.

26. Don't force yourself in drawing something. It's visible in your drawing, when you drew something you dislike.

27. The sketch is the most important part in a drawing. Make your decisions here. Be dirty, free, whatever.

28. Outlines (when wanted) are not only there to make your work easier. Outlines are the part of a drawing that makes your character alive.

29. Less is NOT always better.

30. Don't care what people think of your art, while you are working on a piece. Finish your piece AND THEN care what people think.

31. Sex is not an indicator for good art. Just for attention. Use it as a tool not as the topic, you understand?

32. Everyone can draw. Some have just less interest or skill than you. Or are misguided by wrong paragons.

33. Great coloring cannot hide form and anatomy mistakes.

34. Marvel, Disney,DC,etc. are not the best out there. Just the most succsessful.

35. The mass eats everything. That does not mean you can produce shit.
As an artist you should have standards.

36. Hollywood movies and kids TV misguided your goals.

37. Don't accept anything as art. Be sceptical.

38. Art schools are senseless. The social contact and technic there is only good.
The teachers just want to make little clones. Use schools to learn what you think is really necassary and avoid teachers with own opinions. Marks are unimportant.

39. Your parents will never understand.

40. Find a payed job. Find one where you DON'T care what you do. And NOT art related!

41. Price dumping destroys your and others market.

42. You will never be 100% satisfied.

43. Experiment all the time.

44. Fanart is not bad.

45. Fanfiction is bad.

46. Art is fun.

47. It's never too late.

48. Don't fear the work.

49. You are not an artist when you just 'think' or 'wish'  you are one. Running around and telling people how awesome you are, gives you maybe some fame or work, but never the respect from the professionals. You get quick out of the company when they notice you just blew hot air.

50. Cartoons are art.

51. Other artists will always tell you, that your art is bad and theirs is good.
Don't use this statement as an excuse for your bad fanfictions and horrible drawings. This statement is the most dangerous in the list. Half of the 'artists' try to find holes to excuse their lazyness and this one, is one of the best they will use.

52. When you steal elements from different styles and mix it in a 'new' you do 'chimera' art. Not good or orginal... just a different way to steal.

53. Comparison is the worst think you can do. But finding a goal is the best.

54. Search undiscovered art styles to get a bigger variation of works in your mind. You can decide better what's quality and what's not. maybe you find new inspiration.

55. America is not the only country on earth.

56. Be polite and humble.

57. Find your own philosophy in art.

58. You are not great when you have a mac. You are just a misguided snob.

59. 'White space is the best background' is the worst design choice excuse.

60. Drawing in realisitc style is the hardest but also the most boring art style.

61. It's not easy to draw in cartoon or abstract style. Don't look down to it while you are a realistic drawer. I noticed that many 'realistic' drawer are not able to draw cartoony. Same with Cartoonist in realllife drawings. Respect each other.

62. We don't want drama, we want art.

63. An intelligent joke makes the art not better.

64. A good drawing makes the bad joke not better.

65. Waiting for the big goal gets quicker when you work to it.

66. Video games are time suckers. Avoid them or try to find the best out of the best.

67. Movies are also good comic teachers.

68. Nobody is perfect in everything.

69. Typography and layout is more important than you think. Learn also in these parts.
You will improve a lot also in your drawings.

70. Don't get the cute/chibi flu.

71. Music can interrupt you work. Try to find fitting music.

72. Concentration is IMPORTANT.

73. Coffee is not always the best friend.

74. Women don't draw better than men.

75. Men don't draw better than women.

76. Prizes or awards are just for your ego.

77. A political message is not important  and makes no good art. You just get attention by elitists.

78. Internet is NO 'serious business'.

79. You don't need hundred tools to get better in art. Stick with one tool and then go to the other tool. learn step by step. Some artists never changed their tools in their lifetime. Al Hirschfeld used his nib pen till his death.

80. Photos and drawings don't work always together.

81. Art needs time.


82. A day without a drawing is a lost day. (the Charlie Chaplin quote was changed here)


When you find a mistake you can keep it :D


-Dirk

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Mohegan567 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013  Student Filmographer
The only part that I don't get is why fanfiction is bad. DA is a place for my fanart and sometimes fanfiction. But why is the art part good and the fiction part bad?
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InsaneXSeraph Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2013
You know..this has really helped open up my mind for drawing, its been almost a year since I've actually been active at all on DA.

This list is incredibly inspiring! Thank you so much for posting it; you've made this sleepless chap feel more "capable".
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WhitestAsian Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2011  Student Filmographer
AH! If number 63 is true, then there is no future for me XD. I kid. I like how you say, Women do not draw better than men. Men do not draw better than women. Basically means gender is irrelevant.
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EdwinArt Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2009
I find this list of advices very informative, and so I'll like to congratulate and praise you for passing your experiences to us all.

There are some comments I'll like to make, but first I'll need a little more clarification of the followings:
45. Fanfiction is bad.
62. We don't want drama, we want art.
63. An intelligent joke makes the art not better. (So you don't need to make art better when you have a good joke?)
73. Coffee is not always the best friend. (Coffee will make you more nervous, right?)
82. A day without a drawing is a lost day. (What is the original quote?)

OK, well, about "70. Don't get the cute/chibi flu.", it's quite true how they are easy to draw, and I personally think that because of that, I decided that I will not do it because I feel it didn't suit the way I draw.

"79. You don't need hundred tools to get better in art. Stick with one tool and then go to the other tool. learn step by step. Some artists never changed their tools in their lifetime." Drawing with pencils is the easiest way to go, and I had been doing it often, so I wouldn't be surprised if everyone else would use pencils too. Personally I think that more resources (drawing methods) will be great for some new ideas on how to make use of it to draw something. Is that the right way of a good artist?

Once again, I appreciate your wisdom.
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Themrock Featured By Owner Jun 10, 2009  Professional Traditional Artist
45. In fanfictions (also in fanart) you don't really try to push your own stuff. You just 'waste' good ideas on characters who are already there and/or you use their fame.
There are good fanfics and fabart. But at least in fanart you can goof off and get better experience with tools and art, while in written form you don't get deeper into a characterization.
People go mad here, because they don't understand it.

62. Artists nowaday think that the drawing or artwork is less important. The show in front of it or the idea is more important, which is dangerous. It's more important to make the audience uncomfortable than staing on their level.

63. That's the mistake. A good joke is good, or a good story. But don't forget the freakin' art. It needs the same importance and control.
A comic is still a GRAFIC novel and not a book. People read it becasue they also like the visual candy.

73. Matters what a person you are. I would test it slow. I drink a lot coffee, but I tested how it affects my art and my hand control. And before that I made sure I can draw at first.

82. Charlie Chaplin: 'A day without a smile is a lost day'.

79. People think when they have bought hundred tools they are autoomatically an artist. That's wrong. A dirty pencil is as mighty as a computer with Photoshop.
It's up to you what you do. The power comes from the person.
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WhitestAsian Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2011  Student Filmographer
ZOMG I LOVE COFFEE!!! I'm hyper sensitive to caffeine so I can't have more than like a cup before looking like I'm having a seizure XD but zomg coffee coffee coffee!!!
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tancho-koi Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
5. Don't copy a famous style to get the fame for yourself. Copy a style just to leanr for further development. Getting attention with this work is rubbish.
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That is so right! I tried to do that before and the only thing that it was giving me was very unestethic drawings!
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RedEye89 Featured By Owner Oct 19, 2008  Student Digital Artist
Wow. Part of me says that you just exposed the artist I'll never be.

This is good advice, yet I barely follow any of them.

Either that, or I misuse the knowledge and end up making things worse for myself.

And I also get the feeling that I've been mislead. By my teachers. All those classes for nothing? All I've been doing is wasting my time?

Also, none of my art seems original. Just fragments of others.

Well, I know what I'll never be.

P.S. In my recent journals, I said to myself that I have doubts on being a cartoonist, and I was right.
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ODraconianDevil Featured By Owner Aug 20, 2008
Mostly I agree, though some of it's a bit pretentious.
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donaldsart Featured By Owner Aug 12, 2008
I could argue against at least a third of your list, but a fabulous journal entry non the less.
...one I would be inclined to print out & keep - I enjoyed reading it.

My fav points
13, 27

For point 30 I think one should just not care what people think -PERIOD, though for some this will not help their growth if they are really crap or are genuinly needing feedback.
But it is in our nature to strive for approval. Much of art is about ego - it is hard to deny it.
Any artist that does is not being completely humble - spot the irony in that.

Anyway, well done, I might just link this in my next journal
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kaching12 Featured By Owner Jul 29, 2008
:clap: So true, so true.
I'm currently recovering from a rather strong and long-lived bout of chibi/cute flu. Getting it out of my system.
It's really too bad how many people who need to see this never will.
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TeresaClark Featured By Owner Jul 14, 2008  Professional General Artist
Good advice. I hope you don´t mind if I link it in my journal...
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Earthsick Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2008
I was lost.
Thank you. If I wasn't so tired I would start sketching right away. (10:39 pm over here. I have to work tomorrow, aww. Gonna hit bed soon.)
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safir-chan Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2008
25. Anime is not a good starter style.

I agree a 100% on this. I went way too much into anime in my early years and the only thing it left me with was problems.

Anyway. Well written! Inspiring.
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Tough-Luck Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2008  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No kidding! Me too. It's taking me forever to "un-learn" the style and move forward to creating my own...
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Rikutida Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2008
I third what Safir-chan said and second what you said.

I'm still having trouble getting that anime style out of my art because it messes up your anatomy and facial structure terribly.
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invaderkiani Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2008
Really great input. You have really made my day and helped me to feel more comfortable with where I am going artistically. I am good friends with el-roacho and she told me about your gallery. Thank you so much for speaking your own voice and inspiring people. =) We should talk sometime if you ever have time. I am really interested in your philosophy about the difference between people who draw realism and cartoonists. I have always felt this way about myself. Maybe you have some insight? =)
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Zephyr13 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008
I agree with some of it but that bit about the parents and the friends real struck a nerve with me. My mom has NO artistic inclinations yet she has always tried to understand me and what I do, She learns about the technical bits of art so she can help me when I need advice, and my friends will give me constructive critiques when ever I ask and they will put aside their " dont hurt her feelers" instincts BECAUSE they are my friends.it just depends on the closeness you share with those around you. If they pat you on the head and say its perfect then they really aren't taking your needs as someone they supposedly care about to heart. (and I love my mac but dont feel "greater" because of it, I just prefer it)
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MatiasSoto Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I agree on most of it(damn, the list is long so I can't say agree with everything...XD).I feel almost the same about learning, art academies and trends on drawing, even the jealousy stuff :P(I sometimes found myself "Damn how did he/she did this?I must know!")that's how I got on Realistic drawing after seeing Alex Ross(Check my gallery if you like, I'm really interested on working in both cartoon and in realisitic style).Though you get a bit too stiff on some points I guess you're right on most stuff, though I don't understand why you say people shouldn't get a work on art, I mean I try to get better as possible and learn more about art as much as I can so I'll be a good profesional, not that I care only about the money but having a good salary would make devote more time in developing my skills and learning more and giving more also, having a good way to show my works(and let's be hontest:that's what all artist wants..otherwise we'll do anything else).Maybe you're refering to this as not think about the artwork it self as means of support, to create art as a factory, with no soul , with no purpouse other than making money?
Why was it anyways, your reason to advice that people shouldn't get a work related to art?:P
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Themrock Featured By Owner Jul 13, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Art is something personal and you must have a lot luck to get into an art related job that offers you the freedom to be you. You get mostly less interesting jobs where you work on bad designed stuff or you cannot develop yourself. While you love art, but you must do bad art... and you must get money, you put all your power in bad art.

When you wanna develop in art then is it better you get a job not art related instead. While you maybe put a lot power there too, you don't lose the motivation to draw on your own stuff.

When you have a job that allows you to be free and expressive in art...well then you got the big goal. Like working at pixar or whatever.
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MatiasSoto Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Yeah, I guess I have to dream a little...I aim to that kind of job,but yes, you're right on most stuff anyways.
But I think that trough hard work you can get to work in a good way in art :)
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Drakomagus Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008   Traditional Artist
Wow...
Hey, can you make this into a deviation so I can fav it? OwO
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silasil Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008
good advices it will really help:D

but is it bad to have an art related job? even parttime.
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Themrock Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Not really. Just care that the team and the fun is priority...or you get burned out quickly.
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YouOff Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008  Student
some of these are very good points, but quite a few contradict each other and even more generalise.

all in all though, very good advice for people stuck in one style (coughanimecough)
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chirumu Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008  Student Digital Artist
2. Fame or popularity creates no good artist and is no indicator for good art.
Ignore the internet or ass kissers. :)

81. Art needs time.


82. A day without a drawing is a lost day. (the Charlie Chaplin quote was changed here)

agreed

70. Don't get the cute/chibi flu.

eh D= personally i dont think theres anything wrong with chibis. They annoy me a bit D= but yeah its not that bad lol.
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WarrioGirl Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008
I agree with most of it and disagree with the rest.
It kinda made me angry when you said
"The teachers just want to make little clones."
Because you're generalise and not all teacher are like that. If it wasn't for my art teacher I would have never thought about drawing seriously or really trying to improve.
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Themrock Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Individuals prove the rule.
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Psychotime Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008  Student Digital Artist
LOL, pickles.
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aguzzla22 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008
I agree with most of it, adn when i say most i mean like 90% c: its a very good, defining opinion. im glad you posted it c:
it makes ppl think :D
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kellywormtongue Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008
Thank you for posting this. Some points have been real big eye openers.
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Memo90 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008
To be honest, you can be quite rude at soem of your points... But thank you for sharing your thoughts.

It was an eye opener. I hope I'll learn from this a bit. :3
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Themrock Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
Don't confuse 'honest' with 'rude'.
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Memo90 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008
Hmm... Yet again, a good point there. In Finnish there's a saying "Karu totuus", which is something like the crude truth.

Meaning something like telling things how they are, no matter how pretty or ugly they are.

I'll think about that too.
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SethSoraFett555 Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Wow, that was truly enlightning. 22 didn't make any sense though. 39 is 99% true. 57 would be confusing to some people if it's by me. And 66 is not always true, Video Games can be art if you think about it, sides I'm hoping to be a Gaming Programmer.
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Themrock Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
22. is a joke

57. I wanted it 'confusing' becasue getting your own philosophy is hard work.

66. I never said video games are no art. Hell look into my gallery. My fanart is about game characters.
I said they are just very time killing. You lose time for your development. Specially, when you 'just' play the game, instead of understand the qualities.
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SethSoraFett555 Featured By Owner Jul 12, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Oooh So 22's a joke. I didn't understand it cause I've never had it. 57, yaaa Confusing, yes, having my own phiosophy has kinda been developed my whole lifetime and so far I like it but it's long and hard to explain. And as for 66, I'll make shure to check your art and your right on playing and not understanding it's qualities, I personally like stopping in the game and looking at the sky, background, armour, everything.
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mishinsilo Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks for taking your time to make that list. I'm glad everyone is reading that. You're giving hard love to everyone. This community needs it so bad. I love to progress my drawing... I've noticed I've lacked creativity lately and I'm on it. I will crit you and be honest in your new postings... It's a problem I have ... I am too shy to tell others how I feel. I assume everyone will be offended.
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Themrock Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
I was and am offended when people act like I'm a god or special, while I just have a better development status.
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mishinsilo Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008  Professional Digital Artist
That's what often happens on DA. I see something some really bad art on the front page. Everyone treats that person as a god. One person gives a crit then all the followers start to protect their god. Everyone comes to except that this is a community of praise and most comments become just " awesome". I'm not saying i never said that...but most people do it.
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Braise Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008  Hobbyist
"55. America is not the only country on earth."
Well, that's news to me :)

----Interesting Paradox----
"4. Intolerance against other mediums makes you stiff and hollow. Love all sorts of art and try to find the quality and the garbage in them."

"37. Don't accept anything as art. Be skeptical."
How can I love all sorts of art, if I'm skeptical of them being art in the first place?
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Themrock Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008  Professional Traditional Artist
There is no paradoxum.

While you should consider everything that has etablished as art, you should still be skeptical, when a guy come to you and tell you, his stuff is art.

Half of the people out there do traced or copied stuff and try to tell you it is art. It's not.
So inform you about all stuff and look what's art and accept everything that is art, but avoid the garbage.
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Braise Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2008  Hobbyist
Ah, now I understand. Cool, thanks.
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Zeah1Renee5Voinovich Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008  Hobbyist General Artist
This helps. Thanks.
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KileyHannan Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I love this. I can see I fail at some of these so I will try to fix it in later pictures.

As much as anime USE to be (well, in America) an art form, I come to the conclusion that anime is a style used to get popular. Especially the ones who start off with anime.

My art isn't interesting. It has a lot of white backgrounds. One reason is I am lazy. That is a very bad habit for kids like me who want to be an cartoonist when I "grow up". One thing that always bothers me is how my art is compared to John k all the time. It makes me feel like I am just another copycat artist instead of a fan.

Another thing that angers me is when people think cartooning is easy. My mom has told me several times that she thinks most of the comic strips in the newspaper are badly drawn and that she is sure that 12 year old can make comics like that. Just give them a written joke and the kid can make it. That pisses me off to no end. But no matter how much I explain to her that most comic strip artists simplify their art in the strips because the original strip is almost three times as big and it needs to look smooth when resized, she thinks its easy work.

And fanfiction is never good. I always see it as a handicap because it doesn't let the writer/artist make up their own characters and situations. They just use already made characters, give them new or bland personalities and force them to cohabitant in the writer's own little world. Not art, but butchery.
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Garlar Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008  Hobbyist
This is inspiring =D
I really liked most of the points, especially 70, for some reason, but I don't get what's wrong with fanfictions. Ok, most fanfictions are really bad, but some aren't. It's just like a fan comic, but with no drawings. Can I know why all the hatred towards them? o:
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yaoiWOLFokami Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008
Thank you so much for posting this! I feel so much better right now! ^_^

:hug:
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explosivetoothpaste Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008
wow
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Nasty-Q Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008
I disagree with some stuff on this list, however, I agree with most of it...

Anime-esque drawings can be original, however, most people try to draw like they're Masashi Kishimoto or Tite Kubo >>

Video Games might suck out my time, but chances are, I probably wouldn't be drawing in that time anyway, I draw when I want to, and when I don't... I don't... nothing distracts me from anything else, plus, I draw inspiration from the games...

8... number 8 IS ME... it's kind of annoying though =/
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ShinuchiX Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2008
Thank you, I should translate that to my art teacher. She doesn't appreciate my style and likings, even though she SAYS she does. I can see it from her face.. :paranoid: Thank you for this, very useful for beginner artist :heart:
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